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good to see you. we're going to begin overseas. the crisis in egypt taking a new deadly turn. after days of bloody street battles, violence erupts again. this time during a tense standoff at a packed mosque. we'll have the latest on the clashes and what the conflict means for the united states. and a dreaded deja vu for parts of the southern u.s. areas already flooded are getting hit with more drenching downpours, and even more rain could be on the way. plus, the super secret site known as area 51 portrayed for years in sci-fi flicks as the government's holding ground for aliens. well, now the cia admits it actually exists.
we begin this morning in egypt where for a fourth straight day gunfire is ringing out in the streets of cairo. violent clashes have broken out this morning between security forces and protesters backing ousted president mohamed morsi. it is all happening at a mosque where pro-morsi demonstrators had been holed up overnight. state tv reports the violence began when troops surrounding the mosque heard shots being fired from on top of the mosque, but morsi supporters accuse security forces of firing those first shots. the violence comes at the end of a week marked by rage and bloodshed. our frederik pleitgen is live for us now in cairo. fred, what is the situation on the ground right now? >> reporter: we're getting some information right now that apparently the last morsi supporters have now left that mosque.
again, this is something that has just crossed. we're trying to confirm it. there had been 150 people still holed up in that mosque. the latest information wech gotten seconds ago is apparently the morsi supporters have now left that mosque. this standoff was going on through the entire day. there was gunfire ringing out over cairo that you could hear as apparently there was a shooter in the in my opiniminar opened fire on the security forces. the security forces then returned fire. you could see that the minaret of the mosque was bullet riddled. of course, all of that is doing a lot to further fuel the flames here in egypt. one of the things that we've seen is that yesterday there was a massive death toll. the government now saying that 173 people were killed in clashes into that area. in total, fredricka, according to official counts, since wednesday more than 700 killed here in clashes in egypt, and
you can just see how this country seems to be continuing to descend into day i don't sch. >> meantime, egypt's military we understand is ordering massive arrests. who exactly is being targeted? >> reporter: well, they're arresting people who they say are endangering the state security here in egypt. most of them, of course, are supporters of mohamed morsi or members of the muslim brotherhood. there have been several senior members of the muslim brotherhood who have been arrested. mohamed morsi himself, the ousted president, is arrested, and his detention was prolonged by a further 30 days. that happened on thursday. another prominent person who was also arrested is the brother of ayman al zawahiri, of course, the leader of al qaeda. he's also a prominent supporter of the muslim brotherhood here in egypt. he was arrested as well. the authorities here have confirmed apparently also on charges that he is a supporter of the muslim brotherhood, and
all of this is happening as the government itself announced today that they are thinking of trying to start a motion to make the muslim brotherhood illegal, to ban this organization, which, of course, is what it was under hosni mubarak, and that is a significant step in all of this chaos that's going on here. >> that would be an extremely significant move and quite astounding given it was the muslim brotherhood which helped bring its newly democratic elected leader, the first one ever, only to be ousted a month later. thank you so much, frederik pleitgen, appreciate that. reuters reporting a blast at the egyptian consulate in benghazi, libya. witnesses say the small explosion damaged the building, but so far no casualties are reported. it's unclear right now if this is linked to the unrest in egypt. the u.s. is condemning the crackdown in cairo and has canceled joint military exercises with egypt, but the president is under increasing
pressure to do more. so what are his options? we'll put that question to major general james "spider" marks coming up. new jersey governor chris christie says he will sign a bill to expand medical marijuana options for children. but some changes need to be made first. it's a big win for a father who has been fighting to get edible medical marijuana for his 2-year-old daughter, vivian, who has a rare seizure disorder. alee that cho joining me live from new york with more on this. what are the changes governor christie wants? >> you will recall this father, scott wilson, actually confronted governor christie this past week and said, please don't let my daughter die, governor. that got a lot of media attention. governor christie did indicate he will sign this bill that's been sitting on his desk for a couple months if the new jersey state legislature agrees to three provisions. number one, edible forms of marijuana would be allowed but it would only be given to
minors. number two, he wants to keep in place this requirement that parents get a note from the pediatrician a psychiatrist, and qualifying doctor for a prescription. some parents believe that that's too strict a requirement, but they say they can live with it. and, three, governor christie also supports removing this three-strain limit on the kinds of marijuana that can be prescribed. now, that means little vivian, who has severe seizures would be able to get this edible oil-based marijuana strain that she needs. in fact, here is what vivian's father told our wolf blitzer on "ac 360" lost night. watch. >> overall, this was a victory for us but not a victory for all the patients in new jersey. the lifting of this three-strain limits was a huge victory for us and for everybody in the state. the edibles was just really confounding decision on the edibles. we were not expecting that. i don't think anybody was expecting that. they're only allowing expanded edibles for children or for minors.
>> 2-year-old vivian has a rare form of epilepsy. it causes severe seizures. she's on a special diet and special medication, and she wears that eye patch there because seeing certain patterns without it can actually bring on more seizures. her parents believe that they have tried everything and that the only thing that will control vivian's seizures is this special form of medical marijuana. bottom line, fredricka, this is a victory for this family if the state legislature goes along with governor christie's suggestions, these families, like vivian's family, will be able to get the medical marijuana they need to help their children. and you can see there, it's an emotionally charged story and one that we'll be following very closely. >> and so i wonder then, you know, alina, if everyone is on board, the signatures, the approval all takes place, how soon are we talking the availability? how soon with vivian be able to get this edible form of marijuana?
>> you know, it's hard to say. there is a dispensary in the state of new jersey, and it's just a matter of getting that strain to that dispensary so it can get to the people who need it. it could be weeks. it could be months. it's hard to say. but definitely her parents say that they need it right away, and i can tell you, fred, this is a huge first step, and the governor is calling on the legislature to act swiflt lswif this measure. >> thank you so much for keeping us updated. it's a story that everyone is talking about. is marijuana harmful or helpful? cnn's dr. sanjay gupta cuts through the smoke on america's green rush and journeys around the world to uncover the highs and the lows of weed tonight on cnn at 8:00 eastern time and pacific. the list of accusers against the san diego mayor continues to grow. a 16th woman has now come forward to say she was sexually
harassed by bob filner. the mayor himself is nowhere to be found. and he has left a behavior therapy program, and so far we haven't even been able to see him or get him on the phone to get his comment. but we do know the identity of the latest woman who says mayor bob filner would not let her work in peace. we have her story. >> reporter: walking slowly, assisted by a cane, 67-year-old great grandmother peggy shannon says may nor bob filner repeatedly harassed her for months on the job stopping by her desk at the senior citizens service center. she alleges he once grabbed and kissed her on the lips and even told her, think i can go eight hours in one night? >> mayor filner, i am a mother, a grandmother, and a great grandmother. i have three sons, four grandsons, and two great grandsons. as our mayor, you should be but are not a role model for any of them.
>> reporter: shannon is the 16th woman to publicly accuse the mayor of sexual harassment but the first senior citizen. >> a great grandmother doesn't surprise you? >> at this point, nothing would surprise us. >> reporter: the city attorney jan goldsmith has been leading an internal investigation on filner. pressure is building to find a way to oust a mayor who doesn't want to budge. goldsmith said he may have found a way. the city's charter has a little-used section about firing city officers for unauthorized use of city money. cnn obtained the mayor's credit card statement showing charges at a san diego hotel, restaurants that are, indeed, says the city attorney, personal expenses. >> somebody is so brazen and abusive and personal often, often that translates into the same type of conduct in financial affairs. >> reporter: cnn, san diego. >> we'll keep you posted on that
investigation. take your essential belongings and pets and go now. that was the order, the warning, in fact, coming from idaho authorities to residents in the sun valley area. this after the beaver creek blaze sent massive walls of fire close to homes and resorts in the area. at least 1,600 homes have been evacuated. the fire is only 6% contained and has burned roughly 64,000 acres. all right. we go from one weather extreme to another. heavy rains are in the forecast from the gulf coast to the southeast coast. joining me now, cnn meteorologist jennifer delgado. i think the southeast has seen so much rain, i don't know if people remember what sunshine looks like. >> i know, right? it's hard to believe that it's summer because it certainly feels like fall. a lot of rain has come down. look at some of the totals out there. over the last 48 hours, 4 to 6 inches, including areas like panama city, and speaking of panama city, let's take you for a live view. maybe you can't go to the beach today. now here is your view. doesn't make you feel so bad when you're missing out on this rain, right, fredricka?
the rain will continue to come down as we go through the next couple days. as we look what's happening on the radar, heavy rainfall hitting parts of the gulf coast. of course, we're talking about the florida panhandle area. the rain is going to be here today, tomorrow. in fact, we're talking some locations could pick up more than six inches of rainfall. certainly this is going to lead to some problems with flooding. we have flood watches really all across parts of the southeast in anticipation of this heavy rainfall. and for the tropics, we continue to follow an area of low pressure spinning in the gulf of mexico, off the coast of mexico, and this system here has about a 40% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone. now, all the thunderstorm activity, all the convection, it's to the northeast of the center. it's not organized at all, so right now it's at a 40% chance. on a wider view, we continue to follow the fires burning in idaho. we have a red flag warning in place there. that means winds up to 30 miles per hour and it's going to be very dry with low relative humidity values. in the northeast, it's going to be stunning out there,
fredricka. we're talking about a lot of sunshine out there and temperatures in the 70s and lower 80s. >> oh, my goodness. a real hodgepodge. >> i know. a little bit of everything out there. >> thanks so much, jennifer. appreciate it. kidnap victim hannah anderson appearing in public. her father and friends tell us how she's doing. and area 51, it's been the subject of movies and many conspiracy theories for years. now new information has been revealed that gives us insight into this rather mysterious place. especially today, as people are looking for more low, and no calorie options. that's why on vending machines, we're making it easy for people to know how many calories are in their favorite beverages, before they choose. and we're offering more low calorie options, including over 70 in our innovative coca-cola free-style dispensers. working with our beverage industry and restaurant partners, we're helping provide choices that make sense for everyone. because when people come together,
kidnapping survivor hannah anderson appeared in public for the first time this week as she was rescued in the wilderness in idaho last saturday. a week after a family friend abducted here. on thursday night her family and friends held a fund-raiser for her, and as casey wian reports, she made a surprise appearance. >> reporter: fredricka, hannah anderson looked uncomfortable, perhaps a little scared as she hurried past a dozen cameras or more without speaking to reporters when she walked into that fund-raiser. once she was inside people who were there said she was much more comfortable.
what she really wanted to accomplish was to thank all of those people who have supported her throughout her ordeal and are continuing to support per going forward. hannah anderson's arrival at a fund-raiser came as a surprise. >> this night was an unexpected reunion, honestly. all her friends were here. it was like we haven't skipped a beat. >> reporter: the media were invited to boll weevil restaurant in like said, california, but weren't allowed inside during anderson's r reunion. hannah sends her love. we'll keep moving from here. >> neighbors, friends, and the teenager's grandparents helped raise money for anderson's mother and brother's funeral. >> i wanted to say thank you all for coming. this is a small community that we're a part of, and the community came together, putting on this great fund-raiser for hannah and hopefully her future and healing.
>> reporter: what has it meant to this community to have to go through this ordeal? >> it's horrifying that that guy did what he did. it's just sickening to me, and i just want to put them all to rest. >> reporter: the fund-raising event drew a large krout. raffle ticket sales, cash donations, and 20% of the restaurant sales all donated to the anderson family. >> we have a lot of expenses in front of us, and right now we're just looking for her future and getting her settled. >> reporter: a family hoping to help hannah adjust after she was allegedly kidnapped by her father's best friend. >> you keep hearing the term uncle jim, he really hwas like n uncle jim. >> reporter: we're learning new information about what police discovered at the burned down home. this newly released search warrant says police discovered a handwritten note and letters from hannah that proves dimaggio had control over that house. police also recovered incendiary devices leading them to believe the house fire was caused by
human actions. given what we've learned about hannah anderson's kidnapping, some of the other items seized by police, very, very chilling. empty boxes that once contained camping gear, an empty box that once contained handcuffs, and lots of ammunition. freed re ka. >> casey wian, thank you so much for those details. tonight the full story of this unimaginable crime and rescue. cnn brings you the dramatic details of the kidnapping and heroic effort that led to the rescue of hannah anderson. that's cnn tonight at 6:30 eastern time. the u.s. has close ties to egypt's military. is there anything the u.s. can do to influence events there? [ female announcer ] are you sensitive to dairy? then you'll love lactose-free lactaid® it's 100% real milk that's easy to digest so you can fully enjoy the dairy you love. lactaid®. for 25 years, easy to digest. easy to love. for 25 years, the great outdoors...
another violent day in egypt. more clashes between security forces and profesters backing ousted president momenhamed mor. paul steinhauser finds out americans favor a cautious approach. >> hey, fred. the u.s. should steer clear of the unrest in egypt. that seems to be the message from the most recent polling. more than three-quarters of americans questioned said that washington should mostly stay out of the events in egypt and 6 in 10 said u.s. aid to egypt should be reduced or eliminated. the poll was conducted last month well before this week's outburst of new violence. a pew research center survey
conducted around the same time found a drop in the number of people who said the unrest in egypt was very important to american interests. fred? >> thanks so much, paul steinhauser. so those polls show most americans favor a cautious approach, but the escalation of violence also means the white house is finding itself with fewer options in its military alliance with egypt. the biggest move so far has been the canceling of joint military exercises scheduled for next month. james "spider" marks is cnn's analyst and a former commander. explain this relationship between the u.s. and egypt. why is this so important strategically? >> well, first of all, it's in the very, very volatile obviously very important middle east. the suez canal runs right through egypt and in order for oil to transit, commerce to
transit, you need to have access to the suez canal. so the united states presence in that region is incredibly important. also israel is a neighbor of egypt. over the course of the last three decades, israel and egypt have figured out how to cooperate and get along. that's extremely important and it's been the anchor of our stability in the region for that amount of time. the actual military exercises that have been in place with egypt since 1980 followed the camp david accords that were in place and have been an ongoing exercise series with not only the egyptian military but other friends and allies in the region and have been quite successful in terms of establishing forms of military interoperability, that means how do you work together both at the highest strategic levels and then field training exercise at the very lowest levels, and those are trust-building exercises. we figure out how they work, they figure out how we work, and our military equipment, our training, our education, and our
doctrine look very, very much the same. it's an important relationship that we can't abandon. now, the fact that the president has canceled bright star, which is the name of the exercise, for this year is not a big deal. he'll be wabl to overcome that, but i do think the aid we provide egypt is important and we need to hold onto that, not declare that we're going to withdraw it. >> what if it were to be temporarily suspended, not necessarily ended throughout, but suspended as a result of the current turmoil? >> well, absolutely. i mean, you could suspend it and say, look, here is the quid pro quo. you do this, we'll then reinstate. there could also be some -- what's known as easterly civilian or commercial aid that could take place through usaid. that's not as significant in terms of its size and its ability to impact what's going on. what has to happen right now clearly, fred, is the violence has to subside so the only way that's going to happen is through some type of military
action. diplomacy at this point has a very strong military flavor. >> what do you mean military action? meaning u.s. military involvement in the crisis in trying to quiet things down? what do you mean by that? >> not at all. what i mean is those relationships are in place. they're very strong. they're very broad. they're very rich in terms of their culture and history. the united states does have influence, but they are losing that influence, and the key influence they have right now is that our militaries cooperate and they know each other awfully well. what we should do immediately is we should have a very open communications with the egyptians. i'm confident we are, and most of those are probably back channel comes and we need to ge the military to alter their rules of engagement. they should be arms but they should have strict engagement criteria. they should not be shooting into the crowds. the muslim brotherhood is not a large, significant threat. it's losing its relevance. the people don't want them there anymore. they've lost their -- any form
of legitimacy, and it can subside if the military can learn to act with a little more restraint, which it has not yet demonstrated. that will happen -- >> but in a large part it's created a real problem for the u.s. to even offer or initiate dialogue with whom? i mean, the leadership is nonexistent right now, or at least a clear form of leadership is nonexistent. >> well, there's no form of leadership that's viable in terms of the muslim brotherhood directing activities because what you have is a lot of local violence that's taking place and the muslim brotherhood has said this is disassociated from our affiliatio affiliations. these are not our folks. we're a peaceful group. clearly, that's not the case. >> all right. >> military, however, is in charge. that's our line of communications. >> all right. james "spider" marks, thanks so much for your time. >> thank you, fred. it was boston's turn to let yankee alex rodriguez know what they think about him.
meanwhile, a-rod is responding to new allegations that he sold out fellow players. but first a midwest city wants to give a warmer welcome to immigrants. as tom foreman shows us in this "american journey" report, it's just good business. >> welcome. >> reporter: frozen yogurt is a hot commodity among the summer heat of st. louis and nobody is happier about that than jason jan. when he came from malaysia 15 years ago, he hoped to open a business, and now he has a string of places like this, and nothing but praise for his adopted home. >> great city to raise my kids, and most importantly it has been very immigrant-friendly. >> reporter: that is a message local leaders are desperate to get out. ever since a study found this area lags far behind other cities in attracting immigrants. the nonprofit international institute serves 7,000 a year, but that's half as many as expected in a town this size. the institute is now a key component in the mosaic project,
an ambitious plan to make this area much more inviting to immigrants. >> st. louis wants to be an opening and welcoming community, and that's what we're going to do. >> reporter: that's county executive charlie dooley and mayor francis slay. >> our goal is to be one of the top ten cities in america in terms of increase of population of foreign born residents by 2020. that's our goal. >> reporter: the city is helping imgranted groups connect with loans, opportunity, education. this is not just a feel-good measure. a study found immigrants are more likely to open businesses, create jobs, raise wages, and pursue higher degrees than the general population, and at places like washington university in st. louis, the plan is working for many foreign-born students. >> this place is getting more and more closer to my home. i mean, that is a very strong feeling. >> reporter: so you could stay. >> i could stay. >> reporter: it's still early in this plan and leaders are feeling their way through the process, but they're convinced
that tens of thousands of jobs could hang in the balance. as for jason jan, well, the jobs he's created may be permanent. he's applied to become a u.s. citizen. tom foreman, cnn, st. louis. i'm beth... and i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus on the things you love.
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be talking about the game, right? well, in baseball the doping scandal is still the topic in the locker room, and alex rodriguez is talking. joe carter is here with more on that in today's "bleacher report." joe? >> reporter: yeah, 60 minutes is reporting that alex rodriguez's people, really his inner circle, leaked the names of ryan braun and even his own teammate to yahoo! sports after the investigation started back in late january, early february. but rodriguez, he said last night before the game that he expects more accusations, more stories like this to keep coming out. >> we're all going to have to get ready for a bumpy road. it's going to get worse every day. i would expect bigger and bigger stories it to come out every day. it's frustrating for the game because the game is doing so well. it's such a big series. the team is playing relatively well. i think we're excited about playing obviously one of the best teams in baseball in boston.
>> reporter: of course, friday night was a-rod's first game in fenway since the suspension. as expected, he got no love from the red sox fans. alfonso soriano, on the other hand, well, that guy showing plenty of love at the plate. he had the big bat again. soriano, he's on fire. he's hit five home runs in four games. he's driven in 18 runs over that span, 18 rbis in 4 games. that's ties an ml b record. speaking of the mlb, they're planning to expand instant replay next season. right now only umpires can review boundary calls like whether a home run is fair or foul, but under the new proposed system, managers will be able to challenge calls for review. now, balls and strikes can never be reviewed, but plays at bases, fair or foul balls, trapped catches, those can all be reviewed. before this is implemented in 2014, umpires and players are going to have to vote on it. then owners will have to approve
it. sarah thomas is a 39-year-old mother of three. now, she was actually the line judge in last night's saints/raiders preseason game. and this was an audition for sarah to possibly become the first full-time female referee in nfl history. now, she is absolutely no stranger to being the first in this profession. seven years ago at the collegiate level, she was the first female to officiate a division one football game. she was also the first female to officiate is bowl game. she will go back to refereeing college games and she'll be open for a possible position if one comes available in the nfl some time this fall. >> go girl. we'll be watching. thanks so much. breaking more barriers on the gridiron. you may need to be a pro athlete to afford a child these days. i'll have the latest numbers right after this. when you realize you need to switch to verizon, it's a reality check.
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for generations we've heard about area 51, the place in nevada that's synonymous in popular culture with government secrecy and ufos. it turns out it really does exist. here is cnn's dan simon. >> reporter: hollywood has long showed an obsession with area 51. >> welcome to earth. >> reporter: from aliens to ufos, it helped fuel a perception that the government has been holding on to top secret information about this
remote facility in the nevada desert. until now, it had only really existed m places like "the x files" on television but newly released cia documents officially acknowledge the site for the first time. annie jacobson spent several years researching area 51 publishing her finding in a book. >> it's become a national pastime and a great debate about aliens and the locus of this is area 51. >> reporter: but if you're looking to gain insight into aliens or spaceships, you might be disappointed. the report makes no mention of those things. instead, it says that area 51 was a testing site for the government's ariel surveillance problem during the cold war. not that sensational. but it's likely to cause more fascination about this mythical place. >> i think any document that comes out about area 51 stirs up the pot of intrigue. people are inherently fascinated
with area 51. it says so much about national security secrets. so i think any new release makes people even more interested. >> reporter: the documents obtained through a public records request by an academic researcher may put an end to questions about the site's existence, but experts like former cia officer bob bair, who calls it one of the agency's biggest secrets, says the debate will rage on about whether we're really alone. >> this isn't going to go away. the myths about area 51 will always be out there. i don't even know what went on there, and i was in the cia a very long time and people that worked out there have told me recently they didn't know all that was going on there. so there's sort of, you know, secrets within secrets, and it will always remain a mystery and always remain a place of fascination. >> reporter: dan simon, cnn, san francisco. something else that's out of this world, or two things, two
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the first day back to school symbolizes something big for the town of moore, oklahoma. a step toward recovery. their last school year came to an abrupt and tragic end when a massive tornado hit on may 20th. two elementary schools were left if shambles and seven students were killed. nick valencia has more on the
fist day back. >> there are a lot of emotions when it's time to go back to school, especially when part of the school isn't there anymore. >> i don't know how we survived this. >> i first met dylan in the days following the ef 5 tornado that wrecked moore, oklahoma and left 25 people dead. the word hero got thrown around a lot those days, but ellis was nothing short of one. >> i see her start to go up and lay on her and grab on. once it's over, i push her out of the way and then all the debris starts to hit me. >> how did you think so fast? how did you know what to do? >> i just thought of her as my family. what would i do. didn't think, just did it. >> like most of the students who survived, ellis had a lot of time over the summer to think about what happened. excited, nervous, anxious, those are just some of the feelings he
says he's had about starting eighth grade and after everything that happened, he says he's just ready for things to be back to normal. >> it's been a process to get back, but it's going to eventually get the way it was before. >> first grade teacher lain wishes it was that easier. her school took a direct hit from the tornado. she laid on her students even played music to them as debris rained down on them. >> the ones who i had last year, i saw them this summer and they would tell me, i don't want to go to school, miss mayes. they lost their innocence. >> she says the most difficult part for her will be making them feel safe. >> a thunderstorm might scare me, but there's so much left in the world and that's what we're going to teach the children, too. that's the strength that we have to draw on.
>> and there's one photograph from that awful day the tornado hit that has become quite iconic. a teacher's assistant, her husband, rushing out of the school with the daughters. their mother, bloodied right there and the father cradling his little girl. the parents are in that image and also joining us live with their 10-year-old daughter, jordan. good to see all of you. >> thanks. >> hi. >> so, you're a teacher's assistant at briarwood elementary. what was that first day back like? could you help but think about that tragic day? >> the first day back was a lot of emotions. it was exciting. nervous. a little chaotic. we're in a completely different place. lots of new things we have to learn. end of the day procedures.
it was a little bit crazy and a little bit stressful, but we made it through. >> and jordan, what was the day like for you? going back to school. >> i was scared because there was going to be thunderstorms because we get scared a lot. i get scared a lot and it was exciting to just see all my friends. >> i'm sure that was really comforting and you know, steve, i wonder, did you kind of have butterflies for both ladonna and jordan heading back to school? >> yeah, i was worried. i didn't know how they were going to handle it. and i actually showed up to pick them up from school. just so i could be there for that first day. i wasn't there in the morning. i was actually out of town. it was kind of chaotic. you know, everybody trying to pick up their kids and like my wife said, we're in a different
facility for the school year, but i was nervous about it. i was hoping that it would go well and i think it was a little hard at first, but i think you know, just getting back to school, getting back to a normal routine is going to help and everything's going to do a lot better. >> so, ladonna, now, you are in that temporary school that your husband was just mentioning, but do you know much about the newly rebuilt schools and how they will be equipped? whether you and other survivors of that tornado will kind of be consulted on what's needed the next go round if there is another go round. >> i know that we've been extremely blessed to be at e may. they have just given us everything we need. i know that it's a process. they're still working on the new school. insurance.
you know, i don't know exactly, i know that hadn't begun building it yet. it's supposed to be ready for next school year, so we'll just see i guess. >> there are a lot of people who are still not in there regular homes yet. they haven't been able to rebuild or just yet and they are in temporary shelters. give me an idea of what it's like being in the community. what are people saying, thinking, feeling? >> you know, we were kind of lucky in a way that we had sold our house two months before the tornado had hit. the tornado went through that area where our old house was and it's still there, but just right down the street. you know, all the houses are gone. so, we were lucky in the fact we moved just about a mile and a half away and our new house is untouched. so we went from one house,
another house that's still standing and doesn't have damage, but the other people we know that live in the neighborhood, i think for the first probably month or so and the maybe first couple of months, everybody that had to be in that area and that was still living in that area, were walking around in a daze a little bit and were still just trying to figure out what happened and trying to understand why it happened and we're still really concerned and upset. but i think as time has gone on, people i've talked to that are in other houses, not living in that area right now, folks that are still living there in that area that had their houses still, it just takes a while. with all the debris being there and getting cleared off and that stuff and we start seeing new things go up, i think that's really going to help a lot because when you just see debris everywhere, it's hard to forget what happened.
>> well, it is hard to forget what happened when we see that iconic image of you as a family emerging from that debris, hard to believe that was just over three, there's that image, three months ago, but we wish you the and your community the best as it tries to recover. thanks to you. all the best to you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. oprah winfrey sat down with our anderson cooper to talk about race and the butler. find out what she has to say about the use of the n word.
welcome back. one of the top stories we're following this hour, bullets fly on the streets of cairo as security forces and protesters battle it out for a fourth day. we'll tell you what turned a relatively peace stand off into a scene of chaos. and extreme weather is hitting the u.s. fires in the west. a flood threat in the southeast. find out which states are suffering the most. and oprah winfrey on the n word as she tells anderson cooper her feelings on the use of the word. first up, the crisis in egypt. this was the scene earlier today outside a mosque in cairo. take a look.
violent clashes broke out -- the demonstrators had been holed up there all night. there are reports police have cleared out the last few protesters from the mosque. both sides are blaming each other for starting the day's violence. the u.s. is condemning the crackdown in cairo and has canceled joint military exercises with egypt scheduled for next month. so why is resolving this crisis so important to the u.s.? cnn's foreign affairs correspondent, jill daugherty, has that. >> americans have a big investment in egypt's security, whether they know it or not. the egyptian military's bloody battle is fuelling pressure in the u.s. to suspend military assistance. senator john mccain says the
u.s. cannot be -- in the mass slaughter of civilians. >> our law states a military coup, then aid is cut off. >> president obama won't go that far yet or pull the plug out of $1.3 billion in military assistance the u.s. gives egypt every year. that includes hardware like nya1 abe rams tanks and fighter jets, servicing and technical support as well as military training. cutting aid could cut money to american defense contractors. after all, the u.s. doesn't hand over cash to egypt. it keeps it in a trust fund administered by the treasury department. egypt decides what equipment it wants to buy. like the tank manufacturer inialin lima, ohio. israel, too, is nervous.
officials telling cnn that cutting military aid to egypt could hurt israel and the region. egypt is one of only two arab countries along with jordan that made peace with israel in 1978. in israel now sees the egyptian military as the only stable force keeping the country from chaos and extremism. >> egyptian military has helped defend against jihadists, who have been plotting to launch attacks from egypt into israel. >> another possible effect of cutting military aid, weakening security for the suez canal. a crucial sea route for 8% of sea bourn trade. egypt controls the canal. its troops guard it. the way like some see it, this is a battle between u.s. strategic interests and moral values and so far for president
obama, strategic interests are winning. fred? >> thanks so much. and of course, live pictures right now of, we understand these images are of in cairo outside that mosque where earlier, some 1500 people were holed up with egyptian military forces on the outside. don't have any more context to the images, except you are seeing a large gathering, somewhat peaceful as we see it now, but again, this outside that mosque in cairo where there was some trouble earlier. overnight. all right. residents near the sun valley area of idaho are being told by authorities to grab their essentials and leave right now. gusty winds friday sent massive walls of fire closer to homes and resorts in the 100 square mile area of beaver creek. at least 1600 homes have been evacuated near the towns. the fire has burned roughly 64,000 acres.
from hot, dry, dangerous conditions in the northern plains to an area of the country that doesn't need any more moisture, joining me now is jennifer delgado to tell us about the rain that just won't go away. particularly in the southeast. >> that's right. the rain has been coming down. look at some of these totals over the last 48 hours. we are talking 4 to 6 inches of rainfall across florida and georgia. let's go to panama city because you've been pounded over the last couple of days. what you're going the see at the beach, basically, cloudy skies and the rain and yes, it is going to be gray day. this is going to be the forecast as we go through the next couple of days. over to our graphic, look what's happening on the radar. more of this rain is coming down and some locations, we could see almost 6 inches of rainfall. let me show you the result of some of this flooding across parts of alabama. this is just to the west of montgomery and that was taken yesterday. you're going to see people
driving through flooded streets and we tell people this all the time. you want to make sure you turn around and don't drown when ever you see flooded roadways. a graphic we're showing you some of the totals we're expecting over the next two days. 2 to 4 impbnches in the orange. in the southern part of georgia as well as central florida and you're probably wondering where is all this moisture coming from. well, a lot is coming from the gulf of mexico. before, we were concerned about it becoming a tropical system. right now, it has a 40% chance, but look at all this moisture flow spreading into the southern part of the u.s. and that's why we're seeing the flooding problems there and we have the flood watches in place through tomorrow for many of these areas as we go through the weekend. also want to point out for the fire threat in idaho, looks like we're going to see wind gusts there up to 30 miles per hour and red flag warning. >> they could use a lot of that moisture. >> you can't get the rain where
you need it and you get the heat where you don't need it. >> that's always the way it goes. thanks so much. a man went from a family's best friend to a monster overnight and now, everyone is asking what made james dima ggg snap. a look into his past, next. ingeniously uses radar to alert you to possible collision threats. and in certain situations it can apply the brakes. introducing the all-new 2014 chevrolet impala with available crash imminent braking. always looking forward. while watching your back. that's american ingenuity to find new roads. and recently the 2013 chevrolet impala received the j.d. power award for highest ranked large car in initial quality.
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remained a bit of an enigma. jurors are getting to know a really personal side of him in revealing testimony by his ex-wife, debbie rowe. ted rollins has more. >> by all account, debbie rowe was a fantastic witness. she was emotional, breaking down several times and funny. tell stories about spending time with michael jackson. what is unclear is which side did she help. in a second day of testimony, jacks jackson's ex-wife mesmerized juror, talking about her life with the king of pop, including his journey into addiction, which she said started after this accident in 1984 that burn michael jackson's scalp, but she also talked about the good times. he wanted to be the best parent he could be. rowe said as photos of her, jackson and her children were
shown in court. this photo was taken when she picked jackson up on her motorcycle from a movie set. he said in costume while she gave him a ride and she broke down in tears while this concert video was played from 1996 in munich, germany. ♪ hold you in my arms munich is where she testified she saw doctors administer doses of propofol to induce jackson's sleep. she said she told her boss, jackson's dermatologist, that she was worried that jackson was addicted to propofol. aeg lawyers say that's why they called her as a witness. >> i don't know how she couldn't do anything but help our case. she left everyone know that the people in michael's life were w worried about michael's propful use. >> the most dramatic moment came when she was asked about how jackson's death affected the children. she referred to paris' cent suicide attempt saying quote, she's devastated, she tried to
kill herself. clearly, she did help aeg in that she established jackson did have an issue with propofol dating back decades, but for the jackson family lawyer, she was an asset in that she continued to humanize michael jackson. that is something nobody could argue with. >> so, debbie rowe giving jurors a unique look into michael jackson's home life, his children and his addiction. good to see you. and richard -- hello. new york criminal defense attorney from las vegas. good to see you as well. >> so, richard, you first. aeg lives attorneys are the ones who called debbie rowe as a witness. both sides saying she helped their case. >> she helped ae grg because th case is brought by the estate of the jackson's for wrongful death that aeg hired and supervised
and retained dr. conrad murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for administering propof propofol. what she testified to is that at least for 12 years prior to this death, he was on propofol for sleep. anesthesia for sleep. she testified that for the first time and corroborating the fact he was probably addicted to propofol as well as other narcotics and the issue becomes whether or not aeg knew this and whether or not they knew what murray was doing. michael jackson just insisted dr. murray come, so they just paid them. but rowe said during the tour, the ceo for aeg knew that michael jackson had a major drug problem. >> so, then, avery, if that were the case, does it mean it would
have been incumbent upon aeg to put a stop to it and is that what the jackson family would try to establish? >> well, they're going to have to do that because the fact is that what will be unrebutted in this case is that fact that michael jackson was on propofol for it may have been more than 12 year, actually, back to the late 1980s. what's very intriguing in this is that she testified about what somebody else, a doctor, told her. you know what that sounds like, that sounds like here say and the doctor didn't want to testify because of confidentiality, so the defense needed to get that evidence in and indeed what she told the jurors and i don't know how anyone's going to be able to rebut this, is that it was the doctors who said don't worry about it. it is nonaddictive. oh, my goodness gracious.
so, the jury is left with that sense. the downside is that we heard dynamic testimony about the suffering of the children and other family members, but on plans, if the jury believes that aeg live had nothing to do with the death here, that he was already hooked on propofol, that's going to be a critical part of the defense try iing to get out of this mess right now. >> so, the family is arguing that aeg was negligent, but aeg is not saying they knew nothing about it. that they didn't know he had a problem. that they didn't even know he had a preference about a doctor. and richard, if that's the case, i mean, doesn't it seem as though the family does not have a necessarily uphill battle to show that aeg was complicit in some way? >> the jackson family is on this
cr crusade to blame everyone else for the death of michael jackson without michael jackson taking responsibility for it or themselves who knew their own son, child, brother. it's ridiculous. here, aeg is saying listen, we did not hire, we never heard of dr. murray. we didn't know who he was, what he did. it was michael jackson who wanted conrad murray. so, as part of the contract, they said okay, michael, we'll pay for your doctor. that doesn't mean they knew what conrad murray was doing to michael jackson with drugs he was administer, treatments he was giving and that's the issue of the entire case. whether aeg knew this. >> all right. >> there are two e-mails, there two e-mails, fredricka, from the co-president of aeg live about conrad murray and so, the question is what inferences can be drawn from that information. will the jury believe that aeg live knew about the serious
nature of his treatment? i think that is going to be very important. the other question is did aeg live have any responsibility and payment and i don't think they're going to be able to establish that. >> we'll pick it up again later on in the week if not next weekend. thanks so much. we'll see you again in 15 minutes to talk about a heartbreaking case. a little girl caught in the middle of a very ugly custody fight. we will look into. american law, u.s. law versus native american law. all that straight ahead. and super cute. it's a mammal that has never been identified before. we'll tell you where it was found right after this. do you guys agree? very cute? [ male announcer ] what's important to you? at humana, our medicare agents sit down with you and ask. hanging out with this guy. he's just the love of my life. [ male announcer ] getting to know you is how we help you choose the humana medicare plan that works best for you. mi familia. ♪
welcome back. there are five things crossing the cnn news desk right now. one, the egyptian ministry says police forces have cleareded the last few protestors from inside a mosque in cairo and have them in custody. the supporters of morsi had been there since yesterday. the stand off turned violent this morning. state tv says a gunman on top of the mosque opened fire, but protesters say security forces started shooting first.
and number two, the beaver creek wildfire in idaho is spreading. g gusty winds friday sent massive fire walls closer to homes and resorts in the sun valley area. authorities are telling residents to get out now. more than 1600 homes have been evacuated and the fire is only 66%. forecasts for the area today calls for more hot, dry conditions and number three, denver police have detained a man they say shot two women, killing one of them and booby trapping a neighborhood street with at least two propane tanks. the denver post reports that police shot and wounded the man after he shot one of the tanks and made it explode. officers dismantled the other tanks. no one else was hurt. it's unclear if the suspect knew either of the two women and four, chris christie says he will sign a bill to extend medical marijuana options,
including what's available to children, but wants to put a few changes in place first. he said the bill should say only minors can get edible forms of marijuana and he wants to keep a provision that requires a pediatrician and a psychiatrist to sign off on the prescription. and number five, a rare find in the rain forest of ecuador and colombia. the creature looks like a cross between maybe a cat and raccoon. hey, we're open for any kind of descriptions. the two pound animal lives in tree tops and survives on fruit nectar and there, it's kind of looking a little bat like to me. there's also a pitter patter of little feet in britain and tomorrow morning, prince william opens up about fatherhood and the british throne. it's his first official interview with us since his birth, since the birth, rather,
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for generation, we've hard about area 51, popular culture of government ufos. the cia has acknowledged that the huge area about 125 miles northwest of las vegas was used as a testing ground for area surveillance programs during the cold war. billionaire inventer is best known for developing paypal, the tesla electric car and even the space x program. now, he says he can revolutionize transportation here on earth and it's all about tube travel. >> he knows how to stir up controversy and his latest project is no exception. he says it's a new form of transportation that's a mix between the concord and an air
hockey table. confused? we were, too, so we went out to gut some answers. it sounds like something out of the jetsons. a space age method of transport that could one day get you from san francisco to l.a. in 30 minutes. i met up with science writer brian inside the old school new york city subway system to get the real hyper loop scoop. what do we think it might be like? it's supposed to be nothing like the infrastructure we're used to, right? >> right, so he says it's going to be the fifth mode of transportation like nothing we've seen before. he says it looks like a tube, sort of like an enclosed tube and we just blast air through that. kind of like you know those old school mail systems where they stuff the package up and it gets sucked up. we're going to be launched out of this rail gun. boom, you're off. 600 miles per hour. >> so, i'm imagining my face. is this something i want to ride
on? >> i think so because in a controlled environment, speed doesn't impact human health. >> he has released plans for the solar powered hirp loop including pictures of what passenger capsules might look like. he imagines them as aluminum pods. he says he might be willing to build a prototype to get the ball roll, but whether the project can truly get off the ground is another story. but all of us stuck in traffic jam, air delays and stinky subways can dream, can't we? >> i love it. it is what is needed to move us forward. somebody who says these old ways aren't working. old transit is boring, inefficient. >> a lot of people love the idea, but many are also skeptical about the price tag. he says it can be built for just
$6 billion, but many say that estimate is way too low. >> all right, thanks so much. he says he got the idea for the hyper loop when he heard the high speed rail link project between l.a. and san francisco was delayed and already over budget. it's a legal tug of war with a little girl stuck right in the middle. it's an adoption fight with native american law as the backdrop. our league guys are next. ingeniously uses radar to alert you to possible collision threats. and in certain situations it can apply the brakes. introducing the all-new 2014 chevrolet impala with available crash imminent braking. always looking forward. while watching your back. that's american ingenuity to find new roads. and recently the 2013 chevrolet impala received the j.d. power award for highest ranked large car in initial quality.
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it's a heartbreaking tug of war with a little girl caught in the middle. veronica is in the middle. she was adopted at birth by a south carolina couple. she lived with them for two years, then her boniological father, dustin brown, got custody under the indian child welfare act. brown is a member of the cherokee nation. so this case went all the way to the supreme court which ruled in the -- favor. dustin brown was supposed to hand the child over to them. he refused and was arrested this week. fast forward to yesterday. just about everyone involved showing up for two different court hearings. one at an oklahoma county courthouse. veronica was supposed to be in
attendance, but wasn't there. her records show -- the agreement was reached, so that's where we are. it is still not entirely clear what will happen next in the case or what the agreement was. our legal guys are back. avery and richard, so, avery, this case has had so many twists and turns and now, this mediation agreement. what more do we know about what could be in that agreement? >> well, all the parties have apparently come to their senses. the couple earlier this week has talked about the best interest of the child, hello, and that's what they should be talking about. the problem it seemed was coming from dustin brown who did not appear to want to mediate or revolve the case, so we will hear this coming week a resolution of a case that rips your heart out of your chest because for duoyears, if you
recall, the baby was with the couple. then for a year and a half, the baby was with dustin brown. there had to be a resolution. even the governor of oklahoma was prepared to extradite brown to south carolina, so this case was dripping with legal issue, but once we get to mediation, ultimately, the baby benefits by this and we'll find out the details coming up. >> there are a lot of twists and turns to keep up with. there was a u.s. supreme court ruling on this, but it seems the native american law may supersede that supreme court decision and that's how we are at this junction. the two sides have to somehow come to terms in that way. >> well, justice alito said the act is not applicable. the supreme court referred back down to the south carolina courts and referred the best interests of the child and custody, but this case is a loaded moot court drama, fred.
you can't get any more sophisticated with tribal sovereignty, federal jurisdiction. it is loaded here. apparently, the father impregnated a woman, wanted nothing to do with the baby. the woman gave birth. then decided to put the baby up for adoption. but when she did that -- >> and didn't he waive his right? as a biological parent? >> he waived his rights, but when they did the adoption, they failed to notify the cherokee nation, this was an absolute requirement under oklahoma law because the father is a cherokee, so by failing to do that, the cherokee nation could have stepped in, blocked the adoption because they have an overriding right to maintain the tribe and not to allow all these adoptions of cherokee babies. so, if it applied, right. so the adoption went through. the baby went to south carolina. the cherokee nation went nuts. they told dustin, you've got to get involved here.
they had tribal court rulings that he has custody. it's all over the place right now. mediation will settle in. hopefully. >> and we are out of time, gentlemen, on this, but before we go, in all of this, is there any evaluation of veronica? while we the public haven't seen her, is there some evaluation to see whether she has been doing well with her biological dad versus with the parents? >> we don't have the slightest idea and that's going to be one of the issues hopefully resolved this week. >> thanks so much. >> okay. >> i see that howard university pin, richard. thank you very much. you have been working with the howard law school there. my alma mater there. the university. go, bisons forever. thanks so much. richard, avery, thanks to both of you, appreciate it. the legal guys are here every saturday at this time to give us their take on the most intriguing legal cases of the
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because of where we are on the evolution of our nation. first, a clip. forest whittaker stars as a butler who served american presidents and the film show how changes affected his own family. >> what was the name of that movie, honey? >> in the heat of the night. >> in the heat of the night with sydney portier. >> he's a white man's fantasy of what he wants us to be. >> what are you talking about? he just won the academy award. he's wraeking down barriers. >> about being white. about acting white. >> sydney portier's nothing but a rich uncle tom. look at you. all puffed up. your hat on your head. covering your hair. saying whatever you want. you need to go. >> what? >> get the hell out of my house! get on out! >> i'm sorry, mr. butler, i didn't mean to make fun of your hero.
>> everything you are and everything you have because of that butler. >> i spoke at length to forest whittaker and oprah about the film. here's part of that interview. >> you talked about this coming up on time and certainly, there has been in the wake of the trayvon martin case, a discussion about race in this country that it's interesting. i saw a gallup poll that a majority of african-americans, this is a decision which needs to be had. majority of whites say too much is being made of this discussion. >> i know, i know. that's why i love the film. in light of this is because it brings context to the discussion. when you look at the film beginning with that lynching scene and ending with walking into obama's office, look at what has happened in the span of one man's lifetime. in our country. >> this movie reminds us that the circular motion of things still trying to work themselves
out is going out and that now, it's moving and we're looking at trayvon, oscar grant and recognizing that we have to move ourselves forward in this chain. what we said we were going to do. >> and the truth of the matter, it became a symbol of those times as trayvon martin has become a symbol for this time. there are multiple trayvon martins whose names never make the newspapers or the headlines. the circumstances surrounding that allowed it to be, but there were multiple emmett tills, mull multiple lynchings, young black boys. whose names are not remembered and often not even reported. >> it's interesting to me though how people from different backgrounds see this. i talked to a juror on the trayvon martin case who clearly did not understand or did not feel linked to trayvon martin. felt connected to george zimmerman in a way, but not to trayvon martin and i wonder if
she felt you know race was not a part of this case at all. i'm just wondering -- >> they don't call it race. that's not what they call it. they don't say, oh, because you know what i fund, too, a lot f people, if they think they're not using the "n" word themselves, and do not have harbor ill will towards black people that it's not racist, but to me, it's ridiculous to look at that case and not think race was involved. >> in the film, it's used early on. not just by the guys on the plantation. it's used by lbj. in those recordings, you hear him and in the film, there's a scene where people in the kitchen see him on tv say him saying negro. when did he start to use that word? he always uses the "n" word. was that hard for you?
i know you've spoken publicly about the importance of not using that word. >> i think it depends on the context of the time in which you were raised. i was raised in the '60s and i am a -- not only that, a student of my history and i have said this many times. it's not a part of who i am to use that word. i understand why other people do. it's impossible for me to do it because i know the history. and i know that for so many of my relatives whom i don't know, who i don't know by name, people who i am connected to, my ancestors, that was the last word they heard as they were being strung up by a tree. the last sense of degradation they experienced as you know, some harm was caused to them. i just, it's just not a part of the fabric of who i am, so out of respect to those who have come before and the price they paid to rid themselves of being
relegated to that word, i just don't use it. >> lee daniels the butler is now in theatres nationwide and it's based on the late story of eugene allen who served eight presidents and was a vip at obama's inaugural ball. this afternoon within a couple of day, hannah anderson was on social media, sharing her experience. too much, too son soon? we'll explore the come pumgs of young people to go public. and sinkholes in florida are making news. you'll get a closer look at the sinkhole through this rather unique experience. something you never thought you'd be able to see from this point of view. and this duck dynasty star says he was a victim of facial profiling in the big apple. we'll tell you about his story, straight ahead.
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